German Walther Ppk Serial Numbers. Walther Pp 7.65 Serial Numbers. Walther Pp Serial Number Years. Ppk Serial Number Manufacture Date. Walther Serial Number Lookup. Walther Serial Number Chart. Walther Serial Numbers By Year. Walther Pp Serial Number Lookup. I have a pre-war PPK that has a serial number of 240033K, it is a standard size PPK with light brown bakelite grips and finger rest magazine. It is in excellent condition and all matching. After some considerable research I am unable to find this serial number in any block for manufacturing dates.
Pick up a copy of either E.J. Hoffschmidt's 'Know Your Walther PP & PPK' or Gene Gangarosa's 'The Walther Handgun Story: A Collector's and Shooter's Guide.' Either one of these books will contain an index of serial numbers for Walther guns. Keep in mind Hoffschmidt's book was written circa 1975, so it will have information that is more dated. If the serial number has no suffix letter, #389xxx is a Manurhin-made.32acp PP made sometime between the late 60's to the mid '70's. (Note: Even if it has German Walther markings, that SN was made by the French and simply shipped over the border for marketing by the Germans.).
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LSB#: 200831MK05
Make: Walther
Model: PPK
Serial Number: 121135A
Year of Manufacture: 1967
Caliber: .380 A.C.P. (9mm Kurz)
Action Type: Single or Double Action Semi-Auto with Removable Magazine and Slide-Mounted Decocker Safety
Markings: The left of the slide is marked “Carl Walther Waffenfabrik Ulm/Do. / Modell PPK – Cal. 9mm kurz”, eagle over “N” proof, and with a Walther banner logo”, the right is marked with “121135”. The right of the frame is marked with eagle over “N” proof and “121135A” behind the trigger, the left of the frame is marked “Made in West-Germany”. The right of the barrel is marked “67”, with Ulm antler proof and eagle over “N”.
Barrel Length: 3 1/4”
Sights / Optics: The front sight is a low-profile blade that is integral to the slide. The rear sight is a square notch dovetailed into the slide. The top of the slide has a serrated rib to reduce glare.
Stock Configuration & Condition: The grips are two-piece checkered brown plastic with Walther banner logos at their tops. The grips show minor handling wear with a few scattered light marks. The checkering is well defined, generally sharp. There are no chips or cracks. Overall, the grips are in about Fine condition.
Type of Finish: Blue
Finish Originality: Original
Bore Condition: The bore is bright and the rifling is sharp. There is no erosion in the bore.
Overall Condition: This handgun retains about 93% of its metal finish. The finish is thinning at most edges, more notable at the front of the slide and the top of the backstrap at the rear edge. There are a few scattered light nicks and scratches as well as light scuffing along the sides of the slide. The slide’s finish has a plum hue. The screw head is sharp. The markings are clear. Overall, this pistol is in about Very Good-Fine condition.
Mechanics: The action functions correctly. The double action trigger pull is a little stiff and the single action pull has a smooth takeup followed by a light, crisp break. This pistol has a decocker safety. We did not fire this handgun. As with all used firearms, a thorough cleaning may be necessary to meet your maintenance requirements.
Box, Paperwork & Accessories: This pistol comes in a two-piece cardboard Walther box with serial-matching label, manual, and two 6-round magazines, one with brown plastic floorplate extension and one with flush-fit floorplate. The box has storage wear, most notable at edges and corners with wear on the interior from the contents, in about Good-plus overall condition. The magazines have light operational wear, intact feed lips and strong springs, in about Fine condition.
Our Assessment: This is a West German manufactured Walther PPK chambered for .380 ACP (9mm short/kurz). Walther’s PP series has had an interesting and circuitous production history, being made in Germany, France, America, and back to Germany. This pistol is a 1967 vintage West German made PPK in Excellent condition. It was made just before the United States import regulations restricted the PPK, leading to the introduction of the import-friendly PPK/s. The pistol shows light operational and handling wear, the bore is bright with sharp rifling and no erosion. If you want a small pistol for concealed carry or if you have small hands that won’t fit around a grip with a double stack magazine, this is a quality pistol that is great for concealed carry. It’s also in good enough condition that it would make a nice addition for a Walther collector who would like a post-war German made PPK, especially with its original box. Please see our photos and good luck!
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Greetings.I have a Walther PP for sale, and I have a guy who wants to buy it, but he won't buy it unless I can prove that it is war time. Pistols are not my strong point, so I need help dating this pistol. It is a standard PP, there are no markings on it except for the serial number and maker code.
It has a rough war finish, and there is no Walther legend on the left side. The number is 389337 P, and directly below it is the AC maker code. I can find no prood marks anywhere on the gun.Any help that can be offered would be greatly welcomed. Greetings.I have a Walther PP for sale, and I have a guy who wants to buy it, but he won't buy it unless I can prove that it is war time.
Pistols are not my strong point, so I need help dating this pistol. It is a standard PP, there are no markings on it except for the serial number and maker code. It has a rough war finish, and there is no Walther legend on the left side. The number is 389337 P, and directly below it is the AC maker code. I can find no prood marks anywhere on the gun.Any help that can be offered would be greatly welcomed.Your PP was made in or prior to April 1945 according to Deiter Marschal's Walther Pistols. See the Bottom of the attached page(Page 16).Your Pistol should have on the left side behind trigger guard the Eagle over 359 military acceptance stamp and on the right side under the ejection point the eagle over N Proof Mark(See page 112). Hello, i am new to Walther pistols and am buying one with what appears to be a horizontal 'N' with something (crown?) to the right of it, made ca.
What does N mean and the other character?Crow Crown over N stamp shows that the pistol was test fired using ammunition loaded with smokeless gunpowder. It is part of a system that Germany adopted in 1891.NAZI government changed the appearance of various marks.
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Crown over N became Eagle over N in 1941.If your PP has Crown over N, then it was made before 1941, otherwise it was made after 1941. Crown over N stamp shows that the pistol was test fired using ammunition loaded with smokeless gunpowder. It is part of a system that Germany adopted in 1891.NAZI government changed the appearance of various marks. Crown over N became Eagle over N in 1941.If your PP has Crown over N, then it was made before 1941, otherwise it was made after 1941.Much obliged for your response.
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Any significance to the fact it was made before 1941 and that it has no other mark? What would be a fair price of a pistol of this vintage in 98% condition, in your estimation?
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I realize there is an element of subjectivity to this but you appear to be very knowledgeable about these pistols (about which i have admitted i know very little).What resources (internet and books) are out there that might help me improve my knowledge of these pistols since i am about to be the owner of one?Regards and many thanks again, Crow. Much obliged for your response. Any significance to the fact it was made before 1941 and that it has no other mark? What would be a fair price of a pistol of this vintage in 98% condition, in your estimation?
I realize there is an element of subjectivity to this but you appear to be very knowledgeable about these pistols (about which i have admitted i know very little).What resources (internet and books) are out there that might help me improve my knowledge of these pistols since i am about to be the owner of one?Regards and many thanks again, CrowSee this table to determine which year your pistol was made:It is important to realize that Walther made PP for a long time, since 1929. If all you have is just the regular Cown N mark, then most likely you have a pistol made for commercial sales. The next question is how it got to US.I know a little bit about Walther PP because I own three that were made after WW Two by Manuhrin, France under license from Walther. So I know basics, but not an expert.Your best bet is take some photographs and start your own thread. Maybe others will recognize something that you do not know is important. For everybody's information, the post-WW2 serial #s can be found in Dieter Marschall's book on Walthers.
I have one more question though: Being new to Walthers i went ahead and bought a magazine for the.380 Walther i bought but have yet to receive. When i got it i noticed it has a ridge on the left side, while other magazines i see are smooth on both sides. None of the books i have discuss the difference in magazines, nor mention the ridge (elevation) on the side. Can someone explain to me if this means the magazine is for a post WW2 Walther.380, PP or PPK perhaps? There is no doubt that it is for a Walther PP or PPK.
Your help will be appreciated as always. For everybody's information, the post-WW2 serial #s can be found in Dieter Marschall's book on Walthers. I have one more question though: Being new to Walthers i went ahead and bought a magazine for the.380 Walther i bought but have yet to receive. When i got it i noticed it has a ridge on the left side, while other magazines i see are smooth on both sides.
None of the books i have discuss the difference in magazines, nor mention the ridge (elevation) on the side. Can someone explain to me if this means the magazine is for a post WW2 Walther.380, PP or PPK perhaps? There is no doubt that it is for a Walther PP or PPK. Your help will be appreciated as always. Like this one? Lotuss, just wondering if you ever found out any info about your pp with a 5 digit SN?
I also have one with 5 digits and the letter 'a'. Cant find info about it anywhere. Thanks.The letter 'A' after the five-digit serial # means that it is a.380 caliber made in France betwee 1954 and 1985. The numbers assigned to the French Co. (Manurhin) were 12003A-78148A. You should be able to place your pistol in this range and determine the approximate date of manufacture. My information comes from Dieter Marschall, Walther Pistols, page 28.Crow.
Hello Larvic. If you check out P38.com you'll probably find the date of production. The Crown over N means commercial.
The military ones have the Waffen proofs? The tiny eagle markings.The PPK/s has the PP sized frame and the PPK slide. These were made due to import regulations. Hope this helps.All WWII PPKs were marked with the Crown over N (C/N) or the Eagle over N (E/N) - (depending on the date produced - roughly speaking pre 1940 and post 1940). Walther was a commercial firm and subject to the German proof laws.German military (Army and Luftwaffe) ones were 'also' marked with E/WaA 359 or E/359.
The ones that went to the SS/RSHA had the required C/N or E/N plus the additional SS/RSHA identifying factors. And what difference: Walther PPK and Walther PPK-S?Thanks,The Walther PPK is the smaller version of the Walther PP.
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PP stands for 'polizi pistol' and PPK 'polizi pistol kriminal' (My German sucks!) The PP was for use by the uniformed officer and PPK was for use by dectives who required a smaller pistol. The PPK's frame is smaller and the barrel length shorter, making is a smaller pistol.Back when the 1968 Gun Contol Act was passed, a point system was established to determine if a pistol could be imported into the US. The points were based upon the size of the frames and length of the barrels. It turns out the original PPK didn't have points to be imported but the PP did qualify. So to make a smaller pistol, the importers took the slide from the PPK and put it on the PP frame and this pistol had enough points to be imported. So the PPK/S was born.
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The 'S' stood for Special.